Thoughts on the actions of Gov. Christie in re: Rutgers-Camden

In my prior entry, I mentioned the ongoing discord that has been created through the proposal of Gov. Chris Christie to cut Rutgers-Camden apart from the New Brunswick and Newark campuses and hand it over to Rowan. Below is a series of posts I have made to a thread about the proposal. These posts specifically call out another post whose handle has been removed and also call out the actions of the governor in his effort to “play politics” after pledging during his campaign for governor to “clean up Trenton.”


Originally posted by [handle removed]:

just – I’m a long-time poster and a Christie supporter. The BOT is irrelevant because there is a majority in Trenton that supports the merger (all the R’s and Norcross’ D’s). If for some reason the BOT/BOG puts up roadblocks, the state will just pass legislation overriding them.

By the way, I don’t think this would even ever happen…..the BOT and BOG are political appointees and will yield to what Trenton wants.


Maybe in Christie’s wet dream. Reality is, BOT and BOG are dissecting this payoff, er, proposal, the same way they did the Vagelos Report.

Given the reality check from OLS yesterday and the fact that this is dragging out longer and longer, Christie is honestly looking worse and worse, specifically because all his blustering and bravado isn’t doing squat to make either the BOT or the BOG at Rutgers move on this situation.

Moreover, the numbers for the Med. School are absolutely dreadful in terms of debt and lack of real grant support. For all the touts who want everyone to think the Med. School is some cash cow of NIH and NSF dollars, there is a rude awakening that will be coming down the pike. The faculty may be tremendous, but the lousy infrastructure, thanks to Trenton’s War on Higher Education, has forced many to collaborate with faculty at peer institutions. Thus the primary institution for the grant is not UMDNJ or RWJMS, but another entity. Therefore, neither institution has any control over how the grant money is spent.

People need to face facts: Christie owes Norcross and Sweeney big time for shutting down the dissension within the Democrat Party to his budgets. Payback is giving these to non-college graduates a front they can use to make grabs for grants and funding from outside sources that can be used to continue the payoff party. Anyone who is thinking otherwise, is either naive, a liar or too stupid to be in the discussion.


Originally posted by mkollar:

People need to face facts: Christie owes Norcross and Sweeney big time for shutting down the dissension within the Democrat Party to his budgets. Payback is giving these to non-college graduates a front they can use to make grabs for grants and funding from outside sources that can be used to continue the payoff party. Anyone who is thinking otherwise, is either naive, a liar or too stupid to be in the discussion.


D’uh. This is exactly what is happening and I have no problem with it. Deals have to be cut to get things done…..it’s called compromise. This deal helped pass the HC and pension reforms and will likely allow Christie’s education reforms to pass. All are a HELL of a lot more important than what a college campus in Camden is called.

Good grief…..get your priorities straight.


Originally posted by [handle removed]:

People need to face facts: Christie owes Norcross and Sweeney big time for shutting down the dissension within the Democrat Party to his budgets. Payback is giving these to non-college graduates a front they can use to make grabs for grants and funding from outside sources that can be used to continue the payoff party. Anyone who is thinking otherwise, is either naive, a liar or too stupid to be in the discussion.

D’uh. This is exactly what is happening and I have no problem with it. Deals have to be cut to get things down…..it’s called compromise. This deal helped pass the HC and pension reforms and will likely allow Christie’s education reforms to pass. All are a HELL of a lot more important than what a college campus in Camden is called.

Good grief…..get your priorities straight.


It’s such fun to be able to draw out RINOs like this. “Compromise”? Really? You’re going to pull that weak line out?

If Christie really did have a backbone, he would have told the Democrats just how many charges he could bring against them for the last 50+ years of crooked backroom deals that were done in this State. Christie was a Federal prosecutor with 164 convictions to his name. But no, he went right into the backroom and became one of them to “compromise.” BULL$H!T! The only thing Christie compromised were his principles and ethics.

The fact that you think this type of political payback is perfectly acceptable shows you and Christie don’t give a damn about the State or its resources, only about political expediency for the here-and-now which, in the end, is detrimental to Rutgers, The State University of New Jersey and the State of New Jersey as a whole, just like the Vagelos Scheme.

Frankly, Christie has trashed the reputation he built while being a Federal prosecutor. He’s proven himself to be even worse than Core-slime. At least Core-slime was up-front about what he was doing. Christie has acted in an underhanded manner, offering up State resources to satisfy political debts while trying to cover it up by having toadys and sycophants mouth plaudits.

My priorities are straight. This isn’t about the name of a school; this is about slicing and dicing state resources to satisfy political debts that never should have been incurred in the first place.

I seriously have to wonder if your former handle on this board was Zoff66.


Originally posted by [handle removed]:

mkoller – that’s the dumbest post I have seen in a while. The Dems have 60% of the votes in BOTH the Assembly and State Senate. If Christie did what you said nothing would be done for 4 years. Trenton would just be like DC. This is the real world, not fantasyland.

Wow, just wow.


Typical RINO response. When you can’t beat the premise, start name-calling. And make sure to throw in a few percentages to make the argument sound semi-plausible. Andrew Lang may have written in the late 1800’s, but he nailed RINOs: “He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – for support rather than Illumination.”

So Chris Christie couldn’t get Thomas Kean, Jr. in the Senate to rally five (5) Democrats to their side without cutting a backroom deal? For those not aware, there are a total of 40 members of the Senate, of which 24 are Democrat and 16 claim to be Republican. But to get a budget passed, and pension reform, Christie and Kean, Jr. had to agree to carve up Rutgers. But what do they care? Christie went to UDel and Kean went to Dartmouth. Out of respect for the dead, I won’t say anything about Alex DeCroce.

For reference, the Assembly has a total of 79 seats, at the time of the budget deal, 41 occupied by Democrats and 31 by Republicans. That would mean nine Dems would have had to vote for the budget.

Seriously, you want us to respect Christie’s decision to cut a back room deal and harm opportunities for state residents in South Jersey to get a quality education at an institution of higher learning after he campaigned on a platform of reform of the crookedness in Trenton?!? Who is living in a fantasyland?

For all the bluster that Christie puts forth on certain issues, the fact that he couldn’t put together a rational plan to draw five people over in the Senate and nine over in the Assembly to vote for the budget without cutting a deal like this is deplorable. Any fiscal savings that may have been attained near-term with the budget is lost long-term with the newest demand from Norcross and Sweeney that state funding for the New Rowan match that of Rutgers-New Brunswick.

Some great deal. In the end, state resources are wasted and the New Jersey taxpayer still gets screwed. Same ol’ same ol’.


Originally posted by [handle removed]:

mkollar – once again, grow-up and enter the real world. No, TKJ or Christie can not get 5 Dem Senators and 10 Dem Assembly Members without making a deal. Not going to happen, period. And to be honest and non-partisan, the reverse wouldn’t happen either. Never has, never will. Politics doesn’t work that way when there is divided government.

You can get stuff done or you can sit on the sidelines with your “principles” and watch the state or nation burn. Deals are not being made in DC…..how is that working for the nation?

Overall, Christie is riding high in the polls and for the first time in 10 years, residents of NJ think the state is moving in the right direction. And the reason for all this is compromise/deals and getting things accomplished.


Heh! You are still trying to justify the sacrifice of principles, ethics and morals for political expediency. No, it is time for the RINOs in the Republican Party to “grow up.” You’ve lived in the fantasy world of back room deals for so long that your ilk are incapable of recognizing just how far you have strayed from acceptable behavior.

Divided government comes about when you have corrupt politicians with their hand out for money to buy their vote. Legitimate government functions when there is bipartisanship that seeks to advance opportunities for the society as a whole without individuals looking for a way to feather their own nest first. Too bad the people of this State are stuck with the former and not the latter.

The only reason Christie has any popularity is because he cut the budget and has gotten rid of a few onerous regulations that have hampered business. Too bad it wasn’t explained to the people of the state that he did so at the expense of their progeny’s educational options, especially in South Jersey. As high as Christie is riding in the polls right now, he will come crashing down far faster than you or anyone in the RINO base will want to admit to as people become aware of how he sold them out.

And as for the issue in Washington, fiscal and social conservatives are stuck with two losers in the Senate and House who are unworthy of running for dog catcher. Both are RINOs and both incredibly weak at conveying the principles and ethics that the real American public have been crying out for since the early 1990’s.

Frankly, the “Politics as usual” crowd in each state capital and definitely in DC need to be kicked to the curb. That means, real transparency and honesty. Does Christie have a pair large enough to come out and publicly state why he is pushing this deal so hard? I doubt it. He’d rather let the whole thing crash and burn so he can turn around to Norcross and Sweeney and use that famous line that Democrats have been using on their constituency for the last 60+ years: “Well I tried. But the [Insert hated-group-of-the-month here] just wouldn’t go along with the plan.”

Do us all a big favor and learn what the people want, not what you and the simpering RINO base lust for personally.

 

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